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 Post subject: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:36 pm 
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Hi there,

Me and a mate are changing the clutch on my st170 at the weekend. He has a lot of experience with the engine as he has 1 fitted in a mk1 fiesta track car, but he has only changed the clutch with the engine on a stand.

I'd like to know the easiest way of doing it. Not sure weather to take the engine and box out, or just the box, out the toor out the bottom.

Your assistance would be muchly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:50 pm 
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I'm a mechanic and have been in the trae for 15 year, Every clutch I do I usually take just the box out, Obviously I do them on a ramp at work but taking the engine AND box out will only give you more work in the long run, Never done an st170 yet but apart from the slightly larger 6 speed box it'll just be the same sort of setup as a 2.0 zetec.

Basically, battery and battery tray out, airbox and snorkle out, bottom balljoints out, drain box oil, both shafts out, gear linkage cables off, reverse switch plug, speedo drive plug, clamp the flexi hydraulic clutch pipe and disconnect the pipe from the top of the box, all but 1 front bell housing bolts out, starter bolts out but leave the starter simply pushed out the way aznd the cables still connected, trolley jack and block of wood across the engine sump, rear gearbox stabaliser mount off, 18mm gearbox top mount off, lower the engine and box about 4-5 inches to allow access to get the mounting off the top of the box (gives more room to lift the box past the inner wing), drop the trolley jack a touch more if needed, last bell housing bolt out and lift the box out with a mate as it'll be pretty heavy and a bit awkward :D

Hope that helps a bit mate :D

As per mr haynes "refit is reverse of removal LOL

While the box is off i'd check for any play in the dual mass flywheel ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Mate, you are an absolute legend.

Thank you so so much for that, couldn't have asked for more :D


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:05 pm 
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Not a problem mate glad to be of some help :D

If you get stuck just drop me a PM ;)

Where you from btw mate?

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:06 pm 
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Ilminster in somerset mate, near taunton


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:12 am 
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bit far away, would have lent a hand if you were local LOL

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:03 am 
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Cheers for the offer mate, very kind of you. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:43 pm 
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My brother in law is letting us use his ramp, reckon we can do it all in 4 and a half hours?


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:50 pm 
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matty170 wrote:
My brother in law is letting us use his ramp, reckon we can do it all in 4 and a half hours?


Maybe, though a Ford Tech i know with a ST170 took just over 6hrs on his with a ramp as it was a pain in the a*se he said lol Def put a day aside for it including starting early so any problems you have time to get to halfords etc for any additional items you need

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:04 pm 
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hiya you only need to take the box out its not that bad of a job! what clutch are you putting in? im doing mine at the weekend and im putting a ford clutch back in not bad on price £150 that for a kit with slave and new gear oil, if you need any advise just ask
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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:36 pm 
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Thought it was always advised to change the DMF also? I dont believe the coming off the engine hurting people as no reported cases at work of this lol but how can you tell if the DMF needs changing or not?

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
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Mine was pretty obvious apparently, as it didn't come out in one piece....

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:15 pm 
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hmmm guess ill just have to take the box off and see, looked at etis at work today and looks like a not so fun job lol

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:35 pm 
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Its about 3hrs work on a ramp or i am guessing you could pop it in 5 on the floor.


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:38 pm 
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did my 2day and had to change the dmf!!!!!! retails at £439 to me £290 total cost £440 new dmf, clutch kit, master cylinder, and slave and new oil.
good job i dont have to pay for labor!
took me 4 hour and thats me beening fussy


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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:54 pm 
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rockell wrote:
did my 2day and had to change the dmf!!!!!! retails at £439 to me £290 total cost £440 new dmf, clutch kit, master cylinder, and slave and new oil.
good job i dont have to pay for labor!
took me 4 hour and thats me beening fussy


Yeah same price for me with my Ford discount

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:54 pm 
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wheelydoesit wrote:
Its about 3hrs work on a ramp or i am guessing you could pop it in 5 on the floor.


I really want to know how the hell you did it in 3hrs lol

took me and 2 mates 10hrs over 2days on the floor without removing the subframe, 5 of those hours we were hung over though

problems we found was just getting the gearbox off and on, clutch and fly were swapped in cpl of mins and so was the slave, but getting the box on took about an hr lol

So glad its done now though! actually have performance again and not having 1.6 fiesta pull away from me as if i have a 1.4 focus lol

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 Post subject: Re: Focus ST170 clutch replacement
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:03 pm 
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a 1.4-1.8 Foci takes about 2hrs total. I find that anything with the MTX box is a lot easier to drop the subframe. Its about 20 mins to drop the frame out then its all there looking at you. 3 hrs is having a cuppa too. i forgot to mention i used to work for MrClutch many moons ago so know all the cheats. Ever seen a Mondeo done in 2hrs?.


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